Yun Hee Ryeon
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Posted - 2013.11.09 21:19:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Caldari Factions- Practicals, Liberals, Patriots (general orientation on how their value system)
Just to be clear for any foreign readers, since Mr. Rehnquist's meaning may not have been wholly apparent: a Caldari stating a State faction allegiance is expressing a sympathy, not a membership. The megacorporations themselves are the "members" of their factions; corporate citizens are citizens of member corporations. They may or may not support their megacorporation's politics (though most will at least pay lip service). This also applies to capsuleers and clone soldiers, who stand outside the corporate citizenship system-- we're not "Patriots" or "Liberals," ourselves, but we may favor one faction or another.
In my own case:
Achura (Caldari client state) - Achur - Patriots |
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((Adamance, I believe this topic is IC. I know the lines have been getting blurry lately, but speaking OOC here really is a bad habit.))
Fae-haan:
I'm curious-- when you say that you give a damn about the direction of the "universe," do you mean the State's position in it or do you mean the universe generally?
The Patriots are isolationists, practitioners of porcupine diplomacy ("leave me alone or get hurt"). This being the case, a "bleeding heart" Patriot supporter would be a bit of an oddity. I favor the Patriots because I don't see the universe as fixable, and would rather spend our efforts creating a safe sanctuary than trying and failing to solve other people's problems. The Patriot faction is maybe not the best match for somebody who's actually concerned with the welfare of those beyond our borders. |
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Galm Fae wrote:Forgive me Ryeon for not making myself clear. I was attempting reference your comment that we can be sympathetic at most towards a political slant in the State. I may not be able to say I represent the will of the Patriots, but I will proudly aid them in achieving their ends through thick and thin.
In labeling the Patriots as isolationists, you seem to have a very limited scope on their values. You seem to almost entirely leave out their jingoistic tendancies for boosting Caldari supiriority across the cluster. In fact, I dare say that isolationism is a value held by only the most hardline members of society. (Including but not limited to my former assosiates.)
Assuming the war machine that the Patriots fuel is strictly a defensive measure implies a certain element of naivety.
Compared with the rest of the cluster, Fae-haan, the Caldari people as a whole are exceptionally isolationist. Your people are profoundly inward-focused. To join Caldari society requires complete integration; even we, your spiritual kin, are kept at arm's length. The Patriots are the proudest, and most culturally protective, of all.
That does not mean that they are naiive about what is necessary to protect that cultural purity in a universe that persistently refuses to go away. The military superiority the Patriots focus on is not wholly defensive, no, and for the same reason that the current war with the Gallente cannot be fought only defensively. The Patriots are militaristic to safeguard Caldari interests, both those which must be protected and those which must be pursued.
Note, please, that the focus of their goals before Tibus Heth's rise was Caldari Prime-- not some alien sphere, not some grand campaign of conquest, but the Caldari homeworld and the heritage it represents. Heth-haan, in enacting his own version of the Patriot dream, took it-- not it plus the rest of Luminaire, not it plus Placid (that was only put in play later, by the Empyrean War).
Just Caldari Prime. Even Tibus Heth, with all his bitter hatred.
One of the more interesting questions before the State is whether your homeworld's demilitarized status will be satisfactory to the Patriots, or whether they will remain unsatisfied with any compromise.
The Caldari are a people driven into exile, Fae-haan. The Patriot's cry is "never again." |